Wednesday, February 01, 2006


As I said in the previous post the Bush STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS would be nothing but a lot of LIES, half Truth, and GITTERING FEEL GOOD GENERALITIES and this proves it and with facts to back it..unlike Bush's lameass speech This was all taken from the site www.THINKPROGRESS.org. Here is the original link : http://thinkprogress.org/?tag=State%20of%20the%20Union

They have done a great job debunking and pointing out the BS and the Lies that Bush put forth in last nights speech. Once again thanks to www.thinkprogress.org for taking the time for doing this and allowing me to use it.

SOTU: The White House Is Set To Repeat Its Mistakes After Katrina
Bush said: “As we recover from a disaster, let us also work for the day when all Americans are protected by justice, equal in hope, and rich in opportunity.”
FACT — WHITE HOUSE STONEWALLING KATRINA INVESTIGATIONS: Congressional investigations into the administration’s inadequate response to Katrina have stalled because the “Bush White House is now refusing to turn over Hurricane Katrina related documents or make senior officials available for testimony.” [MSNBC, 1/26/06]

SOTU: Poverty Has Worsened Under Bush
Bush said: “In New Orleans and in other places, many of our fellow citizens have felt excluded from the promise of our country.”

FACT — POVERTY RATES HAVE INCREAED UNDER BUSH: The poverty rate has risen each year since 2001, with 12.7 percent of the population now living in poverty. African-American poverty has risen from 22.7 percent in 2001 to 24.7 percent in 2004, and child poverty has gone from 16.3 percent in 2001 to 17.8 percent (1.3 million children under the age of 18). [U.S. Census Bureau, Aug. 2005, Tables B-1 and B-2]

FACT — BUSH TAX CUTS TARGETED AT HIGH-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS: The tax bills enacted since 2001 “have helped high-income households far more than other households,” according to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. Households with incomes exceeding $1 million have received average tax cuts of $103,000, “an increase of 5.4 percent in their after-tax income.” But in 2005, the bottom fifth of households “will receive an average combined tax cut of $18 from these bills, raising their after-tax income by 0.3 percent.” [Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 10/17/05]

SOTU: The Bush Administration Continues To Bungle Katrina Reconstruction
Bush said: “A hopeful society comes to the aid of fellow citizens in times of suffering and emergency – and stays at it until they are back on their feet.”

FACT — KATRINA RECONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN SLOW AND BUNGLED: “[I]n certain respects, little has changed” in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina, according to the Wall Street Journal. Only one-fifth of the city’s original population has resettled. “The Crescent City largely has shriveled to ‘the sliver by the river,’ as residents now call the thin ribbon of neighborhoods near the Mississippi River that didn’t flood,” and “neighborhoods still are abandoned wastelands of uninhabitable homes and sidewalks piled with moldy garbage.” [WSJ, 1/13/06; AP, 1/12/06]

FACT — ADMINISTRATION REJECTED RECONSTRUCTION PLAN: The White House rejected a Louisiana reconstruction plan — the “most broadly supported plan for rebuilding communities,” and instead backed $6.2 billion in block grants that Congress provided last year, which Rep. Richard Baker (R-LA) called “unacceptable.” [Times-Picayune, 1/25/06; New York Times, 1/30/06]

FACT — KATRINA RECONSTRUCTION FUNDING HAS BEEN TAINTED BY POLITICS: The $29 billion in aid passed last month was tainted by politics: the package “gave Mississippi about five times as much per household in housing aid as Louisiana received,” a “testimony to the clout” of Bush’s political ally, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R). [New York Times, 1/5/06]
SOTU: The Bush Administration Has Betrayed The Public Trust

Bush said: “Each of us has made a pledge to be worthy of public responsibility – and that is a pledge we must never forget, never dismiss, and never betray.”

FACT – BUSH HAS REFUSED TO COOPERATE IN LEAK INVESTIGATION: Bush reportedly knew about Karl Rove’s role in the leak investigation two years ago, yet has not come public with the information, despite his repeated promises “to get to the bottom of this.” [NY Daily News, 10/19/05; Washington Post, 9/30/03]

FACT — BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS STONEWALLING ON ABRAMOFF CONTACTS: The White House continues to stonewall on Jack Abramoff’s contacts with the administration. President Bush refuses to release records of meetings and photos with Abramoff, which Bush has confirmed do exist. A growing bipartisan list of lawmakers have called for the White House to come clean. [White House, 1/26/06; Los Angeles Times, 1/30/06]

FACT — BUSH HAS STRONG CONNECTIONS TO INDICTED CONSERVATIVES: Bush’s election campaign has received over $100,000 in campaign contributions from guilty lobbyist Jack Abramoff and halted a federal investigation into Abramoff’s activities in Guam. Two of Bush’s administration officials — Scooter Libby and David Safavian — have also been indicted and are no longer in serving in federal office. Rep. Tom DeLay, who had to step down in Sept. 2005 as Majority Leader on criminal charges, has been a critical ally to President Bush in pushing his agenda. [Washington Post, 1/5/06; Los Angeles Times, 8/7/05; Washington Post, 9/20/05; CNN, 9/29/05]

SOTU: Bush Has Cut Science Education Funding
Bush said: “We need to encourage children to take more math and science, and make sure those courses are rigorous enough to compete with other nations. We have made a good start in the early grades with the No Child Left Behind Act, which is raising standards and lifting test scores across our country. … If we ensure that America’s children succeed in life, they will ensure that America succeeds in the world.”

FACT — BUSH PROPOSED FIRST CUT IN EDUCATION SPENDING IN A DECADE: Bush’s budget for FY 2006 proposed the “first cut in overall federal education spending in a decade.” The administration requested a reduction of a half billion dollars, or 0.9 percent, from the current spending plan. [Washington Post, 2/7/05]

FACT — SCIENCE EDUCATION HAS SUFFERED UNDER BUSH’S TERM: No Child Left Behind has actually hurt science education, by testing exclusively on math and reading. Some “teachers are being told to stop teaching science and get back to reading and math,” complains Gerald Wheeler, executive director of the National Science Teachers Association. [Business Week, 3/16/04]

SOTU: Bush Wanted Renewable Energy Cuts
Bush said: “The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly 10 billion dollars to develop cleaner, cheaper, more reliable alternative energy sources – and we are on the threshold of incredible advances.”

FACT — BUSH PUSHED FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY CUTS IN LATEST BUDGET: President Bush’s FY06 budget request for the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) energy efficiency and renewable energy programs envisioned “reductions totaling nearly $50 million - an overall cut of roughly four percent.” [Renewable Energy Access, 2/28/05]

FACT — BUSH REJECTED BIPARTISAN PLAN TO SET GOALS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY: Last year, President Bush “oppose[d] efforts to include a national renewable energy requirement for utilities in Congress’ broad energy legislation.” According to the Union of Concerned Scientists it “is a cost-effective, market-based policy that requires electric utilities to gradually increase their use of renewable energy resources such as wind, solar, and bioenergy,” to between 10 and 20 percent by 2020. A 10 percent standard “would have virtually no impact on electricity prices and could save consumers as much as $13.2 billion.” [Reuters, 2/10/05; Union of Concerned Scientists; Union of Concerned Scientists]

FACT — BUSH ENERGY BILL CONTAINED LITTLE ON RENEWABLE ENERGY: The energy bill supported and signed by President Bush dropped a provision that would have required utilities “to generate at least 10 percent of their electricity through renewable fuels by 2020.” [New York Times, 7/26/05]

SOTU: Dependence on Foreign Oil Has Increased Under Bush
Bush said: “Keeping America competitive requires affordable energy. Here we have a serious problem: America is addicted to oil, which is often imported from unstable parts of the world.”
FACT — BUSH HAS INCREASED DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL: Sixty-six percent of oil consumed in the United States comes from foreign sources, up from 58 percent in 2000. Americans now spend $200,000 a minute on foreign oil and more than $25 billion annually goes to Persian Gulf states for oil imports. [Energy Information Administration, 1/06; American Progress, 2004]

FACT– BUSH ENERGY BILL WILL NOT REDUCE RELIANCE ON FOREIGN OIL: The energy bill signed and supported by President Bush “rejected a Senate provision that required reduction of oil consumption by one million barrels per day by 2015.” Under the bill, “our need for imported oil will continue to grow for as long as models are able to project.” [U.S. House Committee on Government Reform, 7/05]

SOTU: Health Savings Accounts Fail To Provide Savings Or Address Costs
Bush said: “We will strengthen Health Savings Accounts – by making sure individuals and small business employees can buy insurance with the same advantages that people working for big businesses now get.”

FACT — HSA USERS MORE LIKELY TO HAVE DIFFICULTY PAYING MEDICAL BILLS: Individuals with high-deductible insurance plans (HDHPs), which are mandatory with health savings accounts, are “more likely than those with traditional medical coverage to have difficulty paying their medical bills. Forty-nine percent of consumers with deductibles above $500 per year wound up with outstanding medical debt, vs. 32% with regular coverage.” [WebMD Medical News, 1/27/05]

FACT — HSA COST SAVINGS ARE ILLUSORY: HSAs are supposed to save costs by discouraging people from obtaining unnecessary health care. But about 70 percent of costs in the U.S. health system are for the top 10 percent most expensive people. These people’s costs are well above the deductible, and they usually require hospitalization or are chronically ill. A high deductible won’t change their behavior. [New Yorker, 8/29/05]
FACT — HSA USERS PAY MORE OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS: According to one study, “more than two-fifths (42 percent) of individuals with HDHPs [high-deductible insurance plans] and 3 in 10 (31 percent) in CDHPs [”consumer-driven” health plans] spent 5 percent or more of their income on out-of-pocket costs plus premiums in the past year, compared with about 1 in 10 (12 percent) in comprehensive health plans.” [Commonwealth Fund/Employee Benefit Research Institute, December 2005]

FACT — HSA USERS MORE LIKELY TO AVOID, SKIP, OR DELAY HEALTH CARE BECAUSE OF COSTS: Individuals in health savings accounts were “significantly more likely to avoid, skip, or delay health care because of costs than were those with comprehensive insurance, with problems particularly pronounced among those with health problems or incomes under $50,000.” Over 30 percent of individuals in these programs “reported delaying or avoiding care, compared with 17 percent of those in comprehensive health plans.” [Commonwealth Fund/Employee Benefit Research Institute, December 2005]

SOTU: Bush Has Overseen Massive Deficits
Bush said: “Keeping America competitive requires us to be good stewards of tax dollars.”

FACT– BUSH HAS PRESIDED OVER SUSTAINED, RECORD DEFICITS: In his 2002 State of the Union address, Bush promised that “our budget will run a deficit that will be small and short-term.” Bush has not kept his promise. The 2005 U.S. budget deficit was $319 billion, the “third-largest ever.” Goldman Sachs predicts $5 trillion in deficits over the next 10 years and Federal Chairman Alan Greenspan argued last April that “the federal budget is on an unsustainable path. … Unless that trend is reversed, at some point these deficits would cause the economy to stagnate or worse.” [Bush, 2002 State of the Union; Fox News, 1/25/06; Center for American Progress, State of the Economy, 1/26/06; Alan Greenspan, 4/21/05]

FACT — BUSH TAX CUTS WOULD WORSEN THE DEFICIT: The President’s tax cuts would only “expand the deficit over the next five years,” despite his promises to the contrary. [Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, Press Myths]

SOTU: Making Bush’s Tax Cuts Permanent Would Be Costly
Bush said: “Because America needs more than a temporary expansion, we need more than temporary tax relief. I urge the Congress to act responsibly, and make the tax cuts permanent.”
FACT — TAX CUTS WILL COST $3.4 TRILLION OVER TEN YEARS: The cost of making the tax cuts permanent will be $3.4 trillion through fiscal year 2015. This includes the cost of extending the Alternative Minimum Tax relief associated with these tax cuts. [Congressional Budget Office, 1/26/06]

FACT — PERMANENT TAX CUTS OVERWHELMINGLY FAVOR THE WEALTHIEST: If Bush’s tax cuts are made permanent, the top one percent of households will gain an average of $71,420 a year when the tax cuts are fully in effect. By contrast, people in the middle of the income spectrum would secure average tax cuts of just $870. [Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center, 12/20/05]

Bush said: “In the last five years, the tax relief you passed has left 880 billion dollars in the hands of American workers, investors, small businesses, and families – and they have used it to help produce more than four years of uninterrupted economic growth.”

FACT — DEFICITS CAUSED BY TAX CUTS NEGATE ANY POTENTIAL ECONOMIC BENEFITS: Studies by the Joint Committee on Taxation (JTC), Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), and Congressional Budget Office (CBO) all confirm that deficits undermine economic benefits of the cuts. In their analysis of the 2003 tax cuts, JTC found that any economic benefits of the tax cuts would “eventually likely to be outweighed by the reduction in national savings due to increasing Federal government deficits.” [American Progress, 1/26/05; CBO, October 2005]

SOTU: Bush Job Growth Lowest Since WWII
Bush said: “Tonight I will set out a better path – an agenda for a Nation that competes with confidence – an agenda that will raise standards of living and generate new jobs.”

FACT — JOB GROWTH UNDER BUSH LOWEST SINCE WORLD WAR II: Even since the 2003 tax cuts, job growth has been historically weak, growing at less than half the average rate for similar periods in comparable post-war recoveries. [Center for American Progress, State of the Economy, 1/26/06]

FACT — FEDERAL SPENDING ON WORKER EDUCATION AND TRAINING IS LOW: Federal spending on employment and training for dislocated workers in 2005 was just $1.5 billion, less than the amount spent on highway aid and less than was spent in 2000 ($1.6 billion), when the unemployment rate was lower. [Detroit Free Press, Bruce Katz Column, 1/23/06]

FACT — WORKERS ARE LOSING PENSIONS: The share of workers with a pension declined from 50.3 percent in 2000 to 40.6 percent in 2004. [Congressional Research Service, Pension Sponsorship and Participation]

SOTU: Bush Did Not Inform Appropriate Members of Congress
Bush said: “Appropriate Members of Congress have been kept informed.”

FACT – BUSH BROKE THE LAW BY NOT INFORMING APPROPRIATE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS: The non-partisan Congressional research service concluded that the Bush administration broke the law by not informing the full Intelligence Committees. The New York Times reports:

A legal analysis by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service concludes that the Bush administration’s limited briefings for Congress on the National Security Agency’s domestic eavesdropping without warrants are ‘’inconsistent with the law.'’

SOTU: Bush Falsely Claims That Previous Administration Did The Same Thing
Bush said: “Previous presidents have used the same constitutional authority I have.”

FACT – BUSH IGNORE THE LAW, OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS FOLLOWED IT: The White House has made this claim before and the AP debunked it:
McClellan said the Clinton-Gore administration had engaged in warrantless physical searches, and he cited an FBI search of the home of CIA turncoat Aldrich Ames without permission from a judge. He said Clinton’s deputy attorney general, Jamie Gorelick, had testified before Congress that the president had the inherent authority to engage in physical searches without warrants.
“I think his hypocrisy knows no bounds,” McClellan said of Gore.
But at the time of the Ames search in 1993 and when Gorelick testified a year later, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act required warrants for electronic surveillance for intelligence purposes, but did not cover physical searches. The law was changed to cover physical searches in 1995 under legislation that Clinton supported and signed.

SOTU: Bush Pushes Two Hijacker Myth
Bush said: “We now know that two of the hijackers in the United States placed telephone calls to al-Qaeda operatives overseas. But we did not know their plans until too late.”

But Cheney did not mention that the government had compiled significant information on the two suspects before the attacks and that bureaucratic problems — not a lack of information — were primary reasons for the security breakdown, according to congressional investigators and the Sept. 11 commission. Moreover, the administration had the power to eavesdrop on their calls and e-mails, as long as it sought permission from a secret court that oversees clandestine surveillance in the United States.
The bigger problem was that the FBI and other agencies did not know where the two suspects — Cheney’s office confirmed that he was referring to Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar — were living in the United States and had missed numerous opportunities to track them down in the 20 months before the attacks, according to the Sept. 11 commission and other sources.

SOTU: House Conservatives Are Holding Up Bipartisan Compromise On Patriot Act
Bush said: “These men and women are dedicating their lives to protecting us all, and they deserve our support and our thanks. They also deserve the same tools they already use to fight drug trafficking and organized crime – so I ask you to reauthorize the Patriot Act.”

FACT — HOUSE CONSERVATIVES HOLDING UP PATRIOT ACT RENEWAL: Sixteen provisions of the Patriot Act were set to expire at the end of 2005. Last summer, the Senate unanimously passed a bipartisan compromise bill to reauthorize the expiring provisions of the Patriot Act and include amendments to guard against government overreach. The bill was rejected by House conservatives and altered significantly in conference. [American Progress, 11/17/05]

SOTU: Bush Administration Flunking on Homeland Defense
Bush said: “Our country must also remain on the offensive against terrorism here at home.”

FACT — FLUNKING OUT ON HOMELAND SECURITY: The 9/11 Public Discourse Project (formerly the 9/11 Commission) has given the administration failing grades on its efforts to improve homeland security. Former Gov. Thomas Kean (R-NJ), former chair of the 9/11 Commission, said that homeland security is “not a priority for the government right now. You don’t see the Congress or the president talking about the public safety as number one, as we think it should be, and a lot of the things we need to do really to prevent another 9/11 just simply aren’t being done by the president or by the Congress.” [NBC Meet the Press, 12/4/05]

FACT — FIRST RESPONDERS A LOW PRIORITY FOR BUSH: Just 6 percent of national security spending is devoted to homeland security and the administration still has “no system in place that allows emergency personnel to communicate reliably and effectively in a crisis.” The government has also cut funding for state and local law enforcement and first responders by more than $2 billion from FY 2005 to FY 2006. “While the terrorists have been learning and adapting, we have been moving at a bureaucratic crawl,” said James Thompson of the 9/11 Project.[Chicago Tribune, 12/16/05; American Progress, 10/27/05; American Progress, 9/9/05; American Progress]

SOTU: Bush Approach to Iran Has Weakened U.S. Position
Bush said: “The Iranian government is defying the world with its nuclear ambitions – and the nations of the world must not permit the Iranian regime to gain nuclear weapons. America will continue to rally the world to confront these threats.”

FACT — BUSH MIDDLE EAST POLICY HAS WEAKENED OUR HAND: By invading Iraq without enough troops and without a plan for stabilizing the country, the administration allowed an historic expansion of Iranian influence westward into Iraq, even as the country’s new leadership has drifted further towards radicalism and rabid anti-Semitism. The Bush administration substituted a policy of dual containment (of Iran and Iraq) for something more dangerous: a single-minded focus on Iraq that has hampered our efforts to fight global terrorism and strengthened Iran’s influence.

FACT — BUSH OPPOSITION TO NEGOTIATIONS WEAKENED OUR HAND: The Bush administration dismissed three separate invitations to open back-channel communications with Iran’s government under the more moderate President Khatami. It refused to participate directly in the talks involving Britain, France, and Germany, despite warnings from diplomats and the International Atomic Energy Association (IAEA) that the talks were likely to fail without U.S. involvement. Instead of being an active player, the Bush administration sat on the sidelines and ceded leadership to others. As Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) stated last November, “The United States is capable of engaging Iran in direct dialogue without sacrificing any of its interests or objectives.”

SOTU: Bush Has Failed To Support The Troops
Bush said: “We must keep our word, defeat our enemies, and stand behind the American military in its vital mission.”

FACT — THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION’S FAILURE TO PROVIDE BODY ARMOR HAS COST LIVES: The New York Times reported that a “secret Pentagon study has found that as many as 80 percent of the marines who have been killed in Iraq from wounds to the upper body could have survived if they had had extra body armor.” Body armor “has been available since 2003, but until recently the Pentagon has largely declined to supply it to troops despite calls from the field.” Additionally, the Pentagon has refused to reimburse troops who purchased their own armor. [New York Times, 1/7/06; AP, 9/30/05]

FACT — PENTAGON WORKING ON PROPOSAL TO TRIPLE COSTS OF MILITARY HEALTH INSURANCE (TRICARE): The Penatgon is proposing to “triple some Tricare insurance costs for military retirees and their families.” “Increases would be substantial — as much as $1,200 more a year by 2009 — with no end in sight because the plan calls for annual rate hikes in 2010 and beyond that would match inflation.” [Army Times, 1/26/06]

FACT — BUSH ADMINISTRATION NOT PREPARED TO DEAL WITH TROOPS RETURNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD: “US soldiers returning home from tours in Iraq, meanwhile are initially showing a higher incidence of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) than in other American conflicts. Around 317,000 veterans who received a primary or secondary diagnosis of PTSD were treated at medical centers” run by the Department of Veterans Affairs. “Experts say the sharp increase does not begin to factor in the potential impact of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.” The Bush administration has consistently underestimated the level of resources needed. [AFP, 1/27/06; Washington Post, 12/27/05, 6/24/05]


Anonymous Anonymous said...

This horse is so dead! Why keep beating it?
No - we do not like what is going on - agreed.
Do remember, the office of president is just that - not a king - not a dictator. What ever has changed in the operation of this country has been with the complicity, if not consent of congress. Then there is the judicial branch. The checks are in place.
So - I do not need to hear any more about thow BAD this guy is, infact it is the whole system.
What I do want to hear from you enthusiastic types is who is BETTER and WHY?
Don't tell me Kerry - seen that.
Who is going to be the leader we want? I do not know right now - you tell me - stop beating a dead horse.
If we want to do something positive for ourselves and this country, we need to stop adding to the destruction and start adding to the positive.
Let's bring in a GOOD choice and get behind him/her.
Let's hear from them how they can get control of the corruption in congress, not be part of it.
It goes on and on - not simple or easy. (that's the problem and why it goes on)
For one, I mayself am tired of watching all this energy going into beating a dead horse! It's dead.
Get a live one and ride it for all it's worth. Feed the live horse - get it/ vote and campaign.


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:26:00 AM  
Blogger Joe Smoe: American Citizen said...

This horse is so dead! Why keep beating it?

No it’s not!!!! This jackass made this mess and he will pay for it.

Do remember, the office of president is just that - not a king - not a dictator.

Oh yeah..how about the domestic Surviellance program with no check or balance??

What ever has changed in the operation of this country has been with the complicity, if not consent of congress.

Your wrong…. This jackass Bush and his GOP majority brought us to this and must pay.

Then there is the judicial branch. The checks are in place.

Your wrong…with Alito there we’ll see if those checks last. Who made Bush pres in 2000 when he actually lost.how about the domestic Surviellance program with no check or balance??

So - I do not need to hear any more about thow BAD this guy is, infact it is the whole system.

Your wrong… Bush is the cause of this mess. Iraq..deficit etc…STOP TRYING TO WHITEWASH!!!!

What I do want to hear from you enthusiastic types is who is BETTER and WHY?

How about this anybody but Bush and the exact opposite of what he has done and stands for…that good enough?????

Who is going to be the leader we want? I do not know right now - you tell me - stop beating a dead horse.

Everything I say and write is wrong and your right…you must be a Republican…Bush and the GOP had all the answers so you tell me what the party line this week is and it WILL HAVE TO BE RIGHT!!!

If we want to do something positive for ourselves and this country, we need to stop adding to the destruction and start adding to the positive.

First thing, loss of GOP majority and IMPEACH BUSH…hows that ???

Let's bring in a GOOD choice and get behind him/her.


Let's hear from them how they can get control of the corruption in congress, not be part of it.


It goes on and on - not simple or easy. (that's the problem and why it goes on)

For one, I myself am tired of watching all this energy going into beating a dead horse! It's dead.

You have a selective GOP memory as BUSH and ROVE led us to this state of partisanship….and I for one will be among those ANTI BUSH that will live to finish it

Gary, you gotta spend less time living in a fantasy world and more in the real world…and stop watching so much of the FOX NEWS CHANNEL.

Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya didn't hear me did you?
I agreed it is bad, I only disagreed with the negative context here.
I had hoped to get your energy working in a way that does not take down the listener and gives out a reason to hope.
Despite other reasons I used the dead horse anaolgy because he can not get in office next time around. Ok? Someone else will - WHO?? Give me something!!


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Beachboy said...

2006 election is just around the corner! - If you really want to do something about it - how about putting your money where your mouth is and get rid of the GOP majority! How about making the people in charge of this mess pay for it! If you do, next time whoever is in charge will think twice before making a mess! – Nothing will change and these politicians know it because guys like you, who probably put these jackasses in office, either say show me someone better or hide your head in the sand and hope for a third party! Yea you say we are beating a dead horse, sorry pal, the dead horse is in charge of the government! Do something about it and try to get rid of these corrupt horses in congress! - To be sure, Joe and I will do something about it! - The question is will you! – Stop making excuses and throwing your hand up in the air and say they are all corrupt! – Man what a cop-out! Stand up and be counted! It is your cop-out attitude that inspires these politicians to shit on you and others because you refuse to make them pay for their actions!

Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:19:00 AM  
Blogger Joe Smoe: American Citizen said...



I read and unstood all you wrote and responded in kind.

I will be campaigning in my state to throw out every GOP son of a bitch in my state come Nov...starting with the Governor. These bastards must be held accountable and PAY THE PRICE!!!

Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just thought I'd add this:
You made your point - very well - over and over. You are effective.

Forgive me if I am naive to feel that you could be a big part of the FIX!

I do belive in blog power

Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi beachboy
Not a cop-uot as much as saddly acknowledging what may well be true.
Remember me - the 3rd party guy? Does that sound like supporting the powers now in?
All I am saying is we need to get together and provide a fix - we already know how dead the horse is.
(now it's a joke)


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KEYWORD: provide (a fix)


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's where we may disagree......

I do NOT assume a fix will be in the way of a Dem. (or a Rep. or a third.)

Where we probably agree is that it will be in the form of a true American who not only wants to help America - but has the guts to do so.


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Beachboy said...

Well Said, Gary! But in order for democracy to work, the public must insist on accountability!

Here is the fix, the GOP will not be held accountable, because the fix (FOX, Disney, Time Warner and GE) will not hold them accountable! – We are in serious crises in our democracy, because the public cannot trust the media to provide the truth! Guess who is making money on our problems, how about the big four media companies, how about the oil companies, how about the pharmaceutical companies, need I go on! Never in our history has the mainstream media been controlled by so few with clear agenda! -

Thank God for Bloggs, thank God for globalization and thank God for the internet! Don’t forget the fix in Iraq was by the mainstream media and our military industrial complex! – Let us never forget what Eisenhower said! What a great Republican he was and how right he is NOW

Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to see about the accountability part. Did you know that Professor Jones is supposed to hold a news conference today? I want to see how that goes.

He is expossing the lies of 9/11.
The media may not be able to ignoe his group much longer. (you are right about the media) We do not know a lot of what goes on, just keep that awareness in your thinking.

By the way, being into the option of a 3rd party I looked into the green party a little. Immediate red flags! Dont go there!

I like the sound of Independant - has a nice ring - could it work?


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok! Now ya got me started on the media...........(deep breath)

Here is one of thier tricks that nees to stop: They know some people read headlines when they cant take the time to read the "rest of the story". Headlines give a different connotation than the story - facts.
Today a headline says Bill Gates speaks out against media censorship. After reading the whole thing I find that he did not speak against anything - he just said it wont work - people will talk one way or another(paraphrase).


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry guys I miss quoted - Gates was talking about censorship of the internet - not media.


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was missinformed.... Jones is not having a news conference, he is holding a seminar:

February 1, 2006
Seminar: "9/11 Revisited: Scientific and Ethical Questions", by Prof. Steven E. Jones

7:00 - 8:30 p.m., at CS 404 at Utah Valley State College in Orem, Utah

My thinking is that the word will spread, and the media will have to take note!


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:17:00 PM  

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